Friday, October 30, 2009

FlashForward: Season 1 Episode 6 - Scary Monsters and Super Creeps

Hello Forward Bound Flashers and welcome back to the creepy children of the world!  Welcome to what will probably be a very abbreviated version of the FlashForward blog.  I'm not a happy camper right now.  I stayed up until 1am balancing my Phillies watching (they lost last night to make things worse) and my FlashForward watching and blogging.   I was 2/3rds completed writing the blog.  I saved the draft, woke up at 5:30 am to finish and guess what?   Everything I wrote is GONE!  No draft, nothing.  NOT HAPPY!   I had some good nuggets of information too!    Anyway, so I'm going to have to go with the less wordy rendition of the recap today! (besides this crazy paragraph naturally!)    It's a shame too, because I think this show is getting nothing but better and better each week.  LOVED last night's episode and was so glad I found a way to watch it in segments during the World Series and still not miss any of the game!  (God Bless TiVo!)

Lots of craziness going on in the episode named after a David Bowie song (also featured in episode).  It was Halloween so all the crazies were out!   Creepy kids, Kangaroos, Masked Men, Future Murdering Quantum Physicists.  We followed up on the fallout from the LA/DC shootings in last week's episode and get to the bottom of Janis's status.  The suspense in the Benford/Simcoe drama was kicked up a few large notches!  Demetri and Gough follow up on a lead from the shootings.     And, I thought that the show is doing a good job balancing all of the dark, dreary drama that is unavoidable with the premise of the show with some great moments of humor interspersed throughout the episode.  Dressing our heroes up for Halloween always helps to cut the tension a bit!  (Dylan - Flava Flav, Aaron - Obi-wan Kenobi  classics)   Anyway, let's try to dive in (again for me) and see what we can discuss.

Updated 11/1/2009 with Screen Caps.  Thanks to THE ODI again! 

Simon Says
We get a lot more of Simon in this episode as he is heading on a Pacific Coast train down to Los Angeles.  (Where do we think he's coming from?  Is it an important detail?  I'm thinking probably).  Most of that opening scene he seemed to be just using his flirtatious ways to get what he wanted from Camille (aka Daphne from True Blood.  You know you were wondering where you knew her from!)  but he did give some nuggets of information that are possible worth pondering.

  • We find out Simon is a genius Quantum Physicist who has won some prestigious awards that he has posed with in his underwear.  Dominic Monaghan distanced himself very well from his previous iconic roles of Charlie (LOST) and Merry (Lord of the Rings)!  He seems to be working on yet another iconic role, but let's see that play out over the season. 
  • Simon discusses with Callie the concept of Schrodinger's Cat in relation to what happened with the FlashForwards.  Any fan of the hysterical sitcom The Big Bang Theory should be aware of at least the NAME of this concept.  I don't think they used it in the same way, but it was used in the pivotal season 1 finale episode for the show!  Anyway, it's a thought experiment that basically investigated 2 possibilities of said cat after an event has occurred.   One possibility where the cat was dead and the other where the cat was alive.  Charlie...errr...Simon, told Callie that both eventualities exist at the same time and the observer gets to decide the outcome.  So should we take this as Gospel?  "Both eventualities exist at the same time" sounds like you could get away with the details in the Flashes being absolutely true but the decisions made by the people in their flashes could totally change?   Like Mark doesn't have to return to drinking but everything on his board is still a valid lead?    If I think about it any further than that, my head starts spinning so let's leave it at that for now!
  • Daphne reveals her FlashForward to Simon.  It's funny, I think I mentioned something like this a few weeks ago when pondering why Wedeck would still decide to go to the Bathroom on D-Day.  I thought, wouldn't this be a massive global event day where people would be gathering in places like Times Square?   Surely enough, the writers of FlashForward didn't miss out on this concept by placing Daphne along with at least 500,000 others from the MOSAIC website into Times Square partying like it's New Year's.  I'm glad they discussed this on the show, but it still doesn't explain why Wedeck would still need to go to the bathroom!  But based on the humor this show has already dished out this season, it could easily be something Wedeck ate!  Or based on the bullet above, he could choose NOT to go to the bathroom maybe.  
  • Simon also revealed his flash in quite disturbing detail mentioning that he remembered the smell of a meat locker and strangling a man with an Ox-like neck to death with great satisfaction.   Who is the man?  Not sure, I thought it was Bryce at first but then realized we probably haven't met who this is yet.  I'm sure we will though!  

Trust me, what I originally wrote was longer!  Yeah, I just don't know how to be less wordy!

Save Janis
Okay, here is where I was probably getting into a bit too much detail.  We saw a lot of the hospital in this episode.  Janis was brought to the hospital, just like I predicted, where Olivia and Bryce work and they performed the surgeries on her.  Our DC FBI travelers reunited with the rest of the LA crew at the hospital as they came to check on their fellow agent.  Once finding out she was most likely going to be okay, Wedeck sent them all home to get some rest.  Demetri didn't obey and took Agent Gough with him to follow up on the DC/LA shootings. (we'll get to that in the next section).  Mark has some moments with Olivia and Stan and Stan sticks around with Janis.

  • We see Olivia clearly get more concerned about the text she received about Mark drinking in his FlashForward.  She has been calling him repeatedly worried that something happened in D.C.   When she does see him she explains this and that they are getting too consumed by the flashes and forgetting to "live in the now" which is what she wants to do now.  We'll see how long that lasts! 
  • Mark is convinced that the shootings are linked to the MOSAIC investigation due to the simultaneous events in D.C. and Los Angeles.  Demetri even brought up the fact later that nothing happened until Mark start bringing up things in court like Dead Crows, D. Gibbons, Suspect Zero, etc...
  • Stan apologized to Mark for his blow-up in DC.   Mark calls it even by giving him quarters for the vending machine.  Okay, so it wasn't "Hurley" funny, but still a little funny!   (Sorry for the LOST reference non fans!) 
  • So over the episode, we watch Janis recover but run into some issues.  I'm sure it was just a good dramatic timing but her monitor started going crazy after Stan told her about the miracle of Childbirth which he informed Janis would see first hand.  She was brought back into the O.R. where Olivia and Bryce had to make a quick decision to save her.  They went with a "B-lynch" suturing technique.  The bullet had bounced around so much inside her that they had to leave it in.  I'm no doctor so I'm probably leaving something out!  But Janis explained that the outcome was that her chances of ever conceiving and giving birth to a child were very slim.   Hmmmmm.   So what is happening here?  Does she get pregnant anyway?  The odds are stacked against her big time now, right?  She likes women (Maya sent her flowers by the way) and her uterus is badly damaged!  Or was her flash playing a nasty trick on her planting in her the desire to want children but then taking it away the possibility of ever being able to?  That would have to be a pretty knowledgeable flash to be able to pull that off!   Is this another example of 2 eventualities existing?   Maybe her choosing to break things off with Maya changed her path from eventually mothering a child?  That doesn't sound likely, but stranger things have happened!
I promise you, this section was much longer too!

Follow the Blue Hand
As, I mentioned earlier, Demetri disobeyed a direct order for rest as he was determined to follow up on the shootings.  First stop the coroner to check in on the men Janis killed.

  • They found similarities to the men they killed in D.C.   They were all Asian, and they were professionals.  They couldn't find their prints, dental records, nothing.   Scarce medical history of a removed appendix or an achilles surgery.  These guys were pretty much off the map.  The coroner did note that one of the men had LASIC eye surgery.  He called it a junior requirement for professional hitmen. 
  • They eventually did find something with a blacklight though, a BLUE HAND stamped or tattooed on one of the men's hand.  The Blue Hand was a clue from Mark's board attached with the name "Baltimore".  Demetri finds himself wanting to follow the flashes to resolve this shooting which alarms Agent Gough because if he was in Demetri's shoes, he'd be wanting to prove the flashes weren't real. 

  • Gough wanted to look more into the Asian connection, but Demetri thinks China is a dead end.  He thinks they need to go to Baltimore Street a few blocks away.  Which Gough reminded him that they were in D.C. which was closer to Baltimore, Maryland.  Demetri eventually convinces Gough to head to Baltimore Street. 
  • And what do you know?  They find a Blue Hand sticker on a Stop sign and it's pointing in a certain direction.   They follow a sequence of Blue Hand stickers all showing different amount of fingers (indicating the # of blocks to go) and it eventually leads them to a bloodstained house with several corpses under a sheet.  One of the hands was sticking out from under the sheet and it was painted blue!  woaaaa   What is up with the Blue Hand Group? (oh come on, you know you wanted to say it too!)   I'm sure it will pay dividends in future episodes but for now we just know there are a bunch of dead blue hand people!   Did they die during the blackout?   Was it a cult-like suicide or was someone else behind it?   Perhaps there are 2 factions that we will be dealing with outside of MOSAIC.  Blue Hand vs. Red Panda?  eh I dunno. 

  • Oh right, they did find one of their licenses that had a name of Ian Rutherford.  And then they remember that Agent Gough was in London investigating the Rutherford case.  Demetri points out that this investigation begins today.   Woa...Al seemed to be in denial about the flashes, but as he recalled his flash and that bird hitting a window, he recalls looking out the window at the dead bird on the ground and yes, it was indeed a crow!  woaaa

I hadn't written this section before my Blog deleted itself, but it was brief right??

Trick or Treat
It definitely was Halloween in FlashForward land.  This led to some somewhat bonding time for Lloyd and his son Dylan, to Charlie Trick or Treating and for Kangaroos to wander out and about!   Let's not forget about masked men!

Lloyd and Dylan:
In the hospital Lloyd spent some time trying to convince Dylan to move to their old house in Palo Alto where they used to live before Lloyd and his wife were separated.  Dylan was acting kind of strange throughout the episode.  You could chalk it up to his autism if it wasn't Charlie acting strange at the end too!  But we're getting ahead of ourselves.  Here's the Lloyd and Dylan pointers:
  • Lloyd knows some crazy magic tricks.  The ol' Pick a card (Queen of Diamonds), memorize it and he'll guess it trick.   Lloyd didn't seem to be very impressed.  All he kept saying is "NO" that he didn't want to move back to old house. 
  • Bryce informed Lloyd that it was Halloween so Lloyd went and got Dylan a costume.  And yeah, he was dressed like Public Enemy's Flava Flav.  (Or the guy from VH1 reality shows, you decide!)  Bryce definitely called the costume "SUPER FLY"

  • Lloyd mentioned that he wanted to say goodbye to Olivia before they left the hospital for good.  Bryce was going to relay the message.
  • Eventually, Dylan decides he's going to run off and Lloyd spends some time with Security trying to track him down (which he does by watching him leave the building on a security camera and boarding a bus). 
  • There was some creepy guy on the bus that was trying to help Dylan find his way.  Not sure if he was a red herring or if he'll be important some time in the future.   Dylan rambled off an address 25656 Sawyer Court Los Angeles, California 90024.  One would think this was a reference to Sawyer on LOST, but others probably know that Robert Sawyer is the author of the FlashForward novel and an active resource for the new TV show.  Whose address was that?  And why did Dylan know it?  Read on to find out!
Charlie's Halloween Outing:
Charlie is getting all excited for Halloween by watching an episode of our favorite cartoon SQUIRRELIO!  (or however you spell it).  Fun fact, did you know the voice of the cartoon squirrel is Sonya Walger as well? (Olivia)  Aaron is there helping out with the kids, as well as Nanny Nicole who is going to answer the Benford's door for trick or treaters. 
  • Aaron convinces Mark to come out with them and get in costume.  Mark wears an eyepatch and fangs.  Did I mention Aaron was dressed up as Obi-Wan Kenobi?   Ahh that was a good time.   Pretty fitting for the philsophical best friend of Mark's as well.  Although, I think we know that Ben Kenobi was no recovering alcoholic! 

  • We got appearance number 2 of the Kangaroo!  He was just rolling (hopping) down the street in the Benford neighborhood.  I have absolutely no idea how they're going to tie this kangaroo into things but it is clearly important!
  • Of course, then we had the whole red herring chase scene when Mark saw 3 masked men dressed in black.  And it was the same masks that the gunmen he saw in his flash we wearing.   Mark chases them through a cemetary before he finally catches one.  Turns out they were a few teenagers afraid that the FBI was after them because they toilet papered a house!  (Unless that was just the kid's cover but I'm guessing not)   Mark asked where he got the mask.  He said it was at the 99 cents store.   Yep, definitely seems like a red herring.

  • Mark gets a call from Nicole and heads home.  Why?  You'll have to keep reading!

So everything came to a climax at the Benford home.  This happens to be the place where Lloyd was wandering and the address that he rambled off. 
  • Dylan just walks right into the home and goes to a cookie jar and takes out a cooke.  "This is my house too" he says.  Nicole is beside herself and doesn't know what to do.  She calls Mark. 
  • Mark arrives home and tries to talk to Dylan.   "My name is Dylan Simcoe, my favorite book his Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, my dad does magic, this is my house too"  woaaaaa  
  • We then see Dylan's flash where he is in the Benford home and he reaches into the cookie jar after Charlie (also there) tells him that "this is your house too".   We see Lloyd sitting on the couch in the background (Lloyd told us he heard Dylan there.  Now we know Charlie was there too).   Well then where was D. Gibbons?  Is it Lloyd?  Is it someone else that arrives at the end of the flash to take them away?  Or is it on the refrigerator that says "D. Gibbons is a bad man". 
  • We see Dylan read the address off of the refrigerator that he ranted off on the bus.  Then in the present day Charlie comes into the room and Dylan says "hey charlie!" and Charlie says "he dylan!" and then they both say "Toot Toot! Squirrelio!"   Woaaaaa that was creepy!  These kids just act like they know each other from running into each other in the flash.  Remember when Charlie was crying when Dylan was in the hospital?  So these kids, if not all kids, seem to be affected differently by the flash.  
  • Then the fireworks happen.  Lloyd shows up, and Mark welcomes him in not knowing who he is yet.  Lloyd slowly begins to recognize the house from his flash.  Then Olivia rolls in yelling "Trick or Treeaaa...." oh boy...what is Lloyd doing in my house?    Mark and Lloyd put the pieces together that Olivia already knew. 
  • Lloyd suddenly realizes why Olivia had been so distant from Lloyd at the hospital.   Mark clearly is agitated and informs Lloyd that nothing is going to happen.  He kicks Lloyd out.  Lloyd was calmly trying to make sense of the whole situation and seemed agitated by Mark although he still extended his hand which Mark shook.    Lloyd then says goodnight to Olivia and he and Dylan leave.  Woaaa, that scene was just intense, right?
  • Mark then starts bullying Olivia.  "I can see why you like him, he's very charming".  He starts asking how his son found his way here.  He called the hospital and found out Dylan was still Olivia's patient even though Olivia told him that she got him moved off.  Then he gets all high and mighty about honesty.  And then Olivia brings up the "are you being honest with me?" card.   Mark reluctantly comes clean about being drunk in his Flash.   And then the contradiction begins.  Mark is mad at Olivia for something that hasn't happened. But Olivia is seeing the signs now of Mark's alcoholism returning which she has already dealt with, and she is not ready to deal with it again.   As I had mentioned before, Mark's apprehension of Olivia's future with another man could drive him to start drinking.  That's the way it is looking now.  But can it be avoided?    We're not sure, but it looks like Olivia is close to her breaking point of leaving Mark if she isn't there already. 
  • Lloyd and Dylan return to the hospital.  Dylan was happy that tomorrow wouldn't be Halloween again because today was kind of scary.  He then thanks his dad for coming to get him. awwwww 
  • Then we get the montage to "Across the Universe".  Mark is alone in the kitchen, Olivia is alone on the stairs, Demetri is in his cube investigating the Blue Hand, Gough is looking into Ruitherford, Stan is with Janis in the hospital, Charlie is with Squirrelio in bed, Dylan is in bed and Lloyd is getting into his car and
  • DR. FRANKENSTEIN'S MONSTER is in the backseat!  Naaaa, it's just Simon.  Simon tells Lloyd that "we are ALL worried about you".  Hmm, We? All?  Sounds like a shady group of people I'd like to know more about.  Apparently Lloyd fled wherever Simon came from after the blackout.  And then he explains why.  "Our experiment killed 20 million people, what else is there to say?"  ........Um, I can think of a few things!

Their EXPERIMENT?  What is this experiment they're talking about? What were they TRYING to do witht he experiment?  Was the blackout an accident?  Clearly Lloyd is not happy with the way things turned out.  Is he a Physicist too like Simon?  Are Simon and Lloyd related to the Blue Hand Group or maybe they are part of Red Panda?   Or is there some other group of scientists involved?   Does Simon's knowledge of Schrodinger's Cat and dual realities hold any weight with the "experiment" that they conducted?   Yes, Lloyd there is LOTS more to say!

But for now, I think we've said enough.  I can't believe I actually retyped everything I lost!  Hopefully, it's worth reading!  Sorry again for the lack of pictures.  There just isn't a ton of resources for FlashForward like there is for LOST, yet.   But we'll get there!  I have read that next week's episode is a pretty pivotal episode and one worth tuning into.  Here's hoping it's the landmark one we've been waiting for!  (don't forget, potential World Series game 7 next Thursday so I'm not sure when I would get to the blog in that scenario!)

Keep up the great commentary that we have going every week.  What did everyone think of this episode?  Hope you enjoyed my ramblings and see you next week!

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MJ said...

Wow - this was a great ep ! They are really heating things up now.

Am I the only Lostie out there that thought of Doc Jensen when they started with Schrodingers Cat ?

Mike - you ARE getting obsessed with that poor man's potty habits. LOL Only teasing you. But really - 'pondering why Wedeck would still decide to go to the Bathroom on D-Day' why do you assume he will still go to the bathroom on that date/time ?

What I found interesting was the train woman stating that there will be a big party in Times Square - basicly stating that people are going to do things that they didn't do originally in their flash !

So is that where the cat comes in? Most saw themselves in the future and their actions between now and that date determine if that flash will really come true ? I mean let's face it - even if Mark and Olivia break up - that does not equal Olivia sleeping with Lloyd !

Did Simon say he was in a room that smelled like a meat locker, or that the guy smelled like a meat locker. Doesn't matter I suppose.

Thought the blue hand was on the dead guy's body somewhere - did not realize the tat of a hand was on his hand.

Great recap as always. And while I live in the Philly area, have to admit to being a yankee fan - but don't hold that against me ! ;-D

Oh - and thinking the Kangaroo is just an obsurdity to amuse us.

Found an article on SyFy about this show that was interesting. Was before last nights ep - in case anyone was interested.

Mike V. said...

What can I say? I'm just drawn to potty humor! lol No I'm not assumping that he will still go to the bathroom then. But I keep bringing it up as an example of if you can/can't change the future. Because if you CAN'T change it..then what would possess him to still want to be in that bathroom during such a pivotal time? that's all!

That mentioning of the Times Square party was actually her telling Simon about her FLASH. So it WAS an event that happened. That's why they brought up that nearly 500,000 people on MOSAIC said they were doing the same thing. I thought it was great that they brought that up because it went directly into my argument about the Wedeck Bathroom incident. Like why wouldn't people be NOT following their original flashes and going to a big event in Times Square? But now we know that there were lots of people that DID have big parties on D-Day. Now THAT is crazy. (btw...i thought the same way you did until I rewatched the scene to see what I missed. That's when I realized she was talking about her flash. which is why she said "come on...i told you mine!"

not sure exactly what Simon said...but yeah it probably doesn't matter. He smelled a meat locker somewhere! lol

BOOOO to you being a Yankess fan MJ! All I can say is, prepare to be upset. It's okay though, you can go to sleep knowing that your team bought 26 other trophies over the years! We just want to get our 3rd and a back to back championship solidifying this team as a real winner...and not just the team that beat Tampa! (I shouldn't badmouth Tampa though, I'm a local news celebrity down there afterall! lol)

Thanks for the link to the SyFy (still the cheesiest name change eer) article. I'll check it out!

MJ said...

Hey - I never said we didn't buy all those rings ! Just happy we could. ;-D

Wow - I might have to rewatch that part about Times Square. Cause if people were seeing random future events - then why would there bit a huge party in times square in April.

Unless celebrating the Yankees winning ? LOL - Only kidding - couldn't pass it up.

But really - as a former NYer - there is no reason for someone to see the future of a big party in Times Sq in April. That is why I thought she was saying that when reading Mosaic and peoples story that they are now saying let's all be in Times Square - not that we were in Times Square. Will check it again.

By the way - LOVED the whole scene at the house when Olivia enters and they all figure it out.

But - am getting annoyed by them not questioning little Charlie for more info. Given that Dad knows she knew then name D Gibbons, and now Dad sees she knows the autistic kid - how the heck is he not getting more info from his own kid ?!?

Mike V. said...

Well, to the random events thing I would say...are they really random? Mark had a vision of investigating the FlashForwards. Simon saw himself strangling a man. Geyer (German guy) had a vision of coming back to the US because of his flash of the future. There are billions of flashes of the future out there. So this is the first time we're finding out that at least a half million people made their way to Times Square for the event. It sounded like camille (was that her name) still wanted to go so she probably will. But would everyone still want to go now that they know they're going to be there? yikes...

i went to Times Square for new years eve ONE time...and I'd never do it again! I couldn't even get to times square..I was a block over or something. It was crazy!

yeah that scene was really great with Olivia walking in and the slow realization. There was a lot of built-up tension leading to that scene which made it even better!

very good point on them not questioning Charlie. It's the ol' LOST conundrum. They'll ask a big important question, but then find a way to interrupt the conversation without ever answering it and then never asking the question again for 3 seasons or something lol It's just how these shows go! Not the best answer, but I think we just have to accept it! Or Mark could keep asking the question, and Charlie could keep giving vague impossible to decipher answers!

Oh and...good to see a Yankess fan who understands how things really are. Some of my Yankee fan friends are in denial. :-)

synchrobrarian said...

i think the show gets better with each episode and i'm really looking forward to next week

i think the blackout had to be an accident as a result of the experiment, time travel attempt or traversing multiple universes gone bad or something like that

i reason i'd go with that is like you said, sort of a paradox between the NY time square party goers and the boss sitting on the john

or they are some kind of defense contractor testing a new weapon system

Greg Tramel said...

i doubt it is relevant but here is the definition of the blue hand in the urban dictionary

blue hand

Greg Tramel said...

and here is a timeline

Pre-GBO timeline

Greg Tramel said...

this cracked me up

Hollywood Sues FlashForward Websites

back in a flash said...

Hi, Mike. I discovered your Lost Addicts blog this season and was glad to see you have a Flash Forward blog. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into it and the great job you do. I posted these comments on another blog but there is very little discussion, so I thought I'd throw it into your blog - other viewpoints are very welcome and very helpful. Anyway, here it is.

Simon provided what I think will turn out to be very important info with his Schroedinger's Cat explanation and his conversation with Lloyd revealing it was an experiment and "we all" are worried about Lloyd. It's like Lloyd, a member of the group, maybe didn't go along with the experiment but "they" carried it out anyway and unintentionally killed 20 million people. As a result Lloyd is remorseful and wants no contact with the group right now but they want to get him back into the fold. Possibly they are designing a new experiment to correct the flaws of the Flash Forward and he wants nothing to do with it.

According to Shroedinger's Cat, on the quantum level there can be two possible outcomes but you don't know which one happened until it is observed. Was the experiment like that, there were two (or more?) possible outcomes but until they actually did it and observed the result they would not know what would happen. Was this just one in a string of experiments (going back at least to 1991 in Somalia) that had succeeded to the point where they felt they could risk carrying out the Flash Forward experiment?

Dylan seems really stuck in his Flash Forward, repeatedly saying it's his house, too, and he doesn't understand why it's not - like he flashed forward and stayed there. Charlie reacts in a similar way when she and Dylan interact - it's like they're old friends who have known each other and done things together - although it happened in their flash forwards, they're living it now, seemingly happily. Mark and Olivia are trying to avoid their flash future but as much as they dig in their heels to stop it, things keep happening to drag them closer to their flashes becoming reality. They are trying to avoid their future; the kids accept and are living theirs.

Mark's behavior toward Olivia is getting on my nerves. His constant attacks for something she didn't do (yet?)and his own dishonesty are too much to take. Wouldn't it be ironic if his attacks are what make her flash forward come true - he drives her away?

And what about Lloyd at Mark and Olivia's when he realizes where he is? He was involved in the experiment so he should understand what's going on. How do we read his reaction?

Is it significant that the guiding hand stickers are of a skeletal hand?

Mike V. said...

Hey everyone, just posted the pictures from THE ODI site again. I really have to get me some screen capture capabilities. Maybe when I switch to a MAC lol

Thanks for all of the comments. Synchromystic, agree that it is looking like some kind of experiment gone wrong. But if that's the case, who are these goons that are coming after the MOSAIC crew? Maybe part of the cover-up?

Greg, thanks for the links! I didn't check out the blue hand definition one yet but maybe when I get some more time tomorrow or something. But I also thought the Truth Hack article was pretty funny too. lol

back in a flash, thanks for the compliments on the blogs! I like the thought about Dylan being stuck in his flash forward. It does seem that way. I wonder if it's a result of his autism or more of a result of children exposed to the blackout? Because Charlie has been acting strange too. then again, all the children on the playground seemed normal besides the fact that they were playing a game called BLACKOUT! lol

agreed that simon bringing up Schrodinger's cat will be important. agree that Mark's current actions would probably be what leads him to start drinking and what drives Olivia away, that is...unless they realize that is what is causing it and end up preventing it!

Don't know what to make of Lloyd yet. It seems that maybe he is aware of why the flashforward happened, but maybe never experienced one for himself he is just as clueless as the rest of them. And he is realizing things just as they are too! Doesn't seem like he has an evil agenda, but we'll see!

no idea about the skeleton blue hand stickers...but definitely something to keep in the back of the head for future episodes.

Thanks again for the comments guys. Keep it up!

But for now...time for Game 4. Let's go Phillies!!

SR said...

During the search for the blue hand, did anyone catch Dimitri saying something about when he had a few drinks that he completely blacks out? Maybe he was drunk in his flash and that is why he doesn't see anything? I am just having a hard time with them prophesizing his death - I feel like they are trying to throw us off. Maybe whoever is saying he will die is trying to get him to stop investigating what caused the blackouts?

Anonymous said...

Large Hadron Collider accelerator is performing a run to search for the Higgs boson. The experiment has a unique side effect: the entire human race loses its consciousness for about two minutes. During that time, nearly everyone sees themselves in the future.

Each individual experiences their own future through the senses of their future self. This "flash forward" results in several deaths and accidents involving vehicles, aircraft, and any other device needing human control at the time of the experiment.

Anonymous said...

The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is the world's largest and highest-energy particle accelerator, intended to collide opposing particle beams of either protons at an energy of 7 TeV per particle or lead nuclei at an energy of 574 TeV per nucleus. It lies in a tunnel 27 kilometres (17 mi) in circumference, as much as 175 metres (570 ft) beneath the Franco-Swiss border near Geneva, Switzerland.

The Large Hadron Collider was built by the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) with the intention of testing various predictions of high-energy physics, including the existence of the hypothesized Higgs boson[1] and of the large family of new particles predicted by supersymmetry.[2] It is funded by and built in collaboration with over 10,000 scientists and engineers from over 100 countries as well as hundreds of universities and laboratories.[3]

Info from WiKipedia.

Mike V. said...

SR, I totally missed that if he said it. But good catch! That would totally make sense why he wouldn't see anything. And it would be one of those subtle clues you could go back to earlier after watching the season finale to be like "ahhh they were letting us know all along!" Of course, we know Mark was pretty drunk too and the effects that being drunk had on his flash.

Anonymous, thanks for the info on the CERN and LHC stuff. I think that was brought up n the novel right? Actually, I think CERN was brought up in one of the episodes too. I guess you never know.....but one thing we know is that Lloyd wasn't overseas during the blackout and it doesn't look like Simon was either and they think their "experiment" was responsible for what happened. Should be interesting to see if they tie that stuff in!

Greg Tramel said...

i think TPTB said CERN is not part of the TV show like it was in the novel, that's why i'm looking at other ideas such as defense contractor's experiments with electromagnetic weapons

i agree cell phone towers have to play a part

MJ said...

This show is definitely getting more and more interesting. Can't wait to see where they will take us.

I'm not a trash talker Mike - so I wish you and your phillies luck tonight. Going to game 7 could be exciting ! Besides - I'm a bigger Giants fan then I am Yankees - so I'm licking my wounds from sunday afternoon ! LOL

Mike V. said...

Ahhh electromagnetism....sounds familiar :-) lol Can't wait until January!!

MJ, I'm so fired up right now with some of the management decisions made at the end of last night's game. We deserved to lose it! I think Lee will get us a win tonight...but Game 6 I just don't know. I think we'd have to pitch Lee again on short rest in game 7 if it comes down to it. We'll see! Can't say I share the same love for the Eagles that you do the Giants. (somehow back in the day I pledged my support to San Fran!...gee I wonder why!) But that being said, I can't stand the Giants, so it's always nice to see them get trampled!! lol

Rukshan said...

Hey Mike, Shame about you losing you data.Hope you learn to back up next time :) But regardless of that- you've still put up a great recap.

The acting some times seems poor in this show for me. Janis was having a major operation and they clearly show her blinking during it, there is no way that surgery is done under local anesthesia, and who ever stops in the middle of sex in that position to have a conversation about there flash.. c'mon!

We can now speculate that Olivia separates from Mark cos of the Drinking and his crazy attitude and gets together with Lloyd just to help out with the kid and things move on from there.

The Blue hand really is crazy, the only thing I can think of is that its come kind of cult,with some drug habits and some kind of drug war went on and they were "taken care of"

I'm not sure if microwaves found in the cell towers can be used for electromagnetism. EM needs a LOT of energy, specially for that magnitude.

Greg Tramel said...

Rukshan, ok, how about using HAARP to create the energy and bounce it off cell phone towers


Rukshan said...

WOW HAARP sounds very cool. What ever it is, it has to be globally accessible. So if it was a wave it cant be short range, unless as said, it bounces off towers or some thing.

This is cool, but after January we are all going to be wreaking our brains trying to figure out lost!

Greg Tramel said...

Tesla technology has come up as well


i'm thinking Somalia was a controlled small area trial run

BTW, we've been talking Lost ALL hiatus

Mommy (Ellie) Dearest

Mike V. said...

Finally, just got back to tending to my LOST Addicts Blog LOL

Mike V. said...

definitely interesting stuff Greg. I'm gonna have to read all of that when I get some time. Thanks for the links!

Mike V. said...

BTW, thanks Rukshan for the props on the blog! I swear I'm not trying to increase my comment count, I just am not thinking straight tonight! lol


MJ said...

Hey - got swamped and never checked back in. Whoo Hoo Yankees.

Something about all New York teams - everyone generally loves them or hates them. Very few are neutral.

Hey - last night on Fringe the smoke monster guest starred. LOL Guess he was killing time in the Lost hiatus.

Mike V. said...

Totally agree MJ. It's just so easy to hate them. But I think just being from Philly, it's required to hate them! lol

Didn't catch Fringe yet, but I'll look forward to seeing what you're talking about.

Still working on the blog. Good thing I'm off today, I would have never gotten this thing done!