Friday, October 23, 2009

FlashForward: Season 1 Episode 5 - Gimme Some Truth


Hello Washington D.C. and welcome to FlashForward!   And of course, welcome all of you fine readers back to the FlashForward Addicts "in training" blog!   I welcome the capital of the United States to the show because, up until now we have been dealing with the investigation into the blackouts solely from a Los Angeles FBI branch, which some people were starting to wonder why the whole world were pinning their hopes on this one group to figure things out.   This episode definitely broadened the scope of things.  Sure, the scope is still a worldwide blackout, but at least now we see more people are trying to do things about it.  And to say things got more things got complicated and a whole lot more interesting is an understatement!  You can point back to particular moments in the past 4 episodes that stood out above the rest as key moments.  I have to say this episode had my attention from start to finish.   While I'm still waiting for my world to be turned upside down, the show is definitely paving a path towards some exciting things!

The episode essentially covers 3 stories during the episode.  Primarily Stan Wedeck, Mark Benford, Demetri Noh and Agent Vreede are in Washington attempting to sell their MOSAIC Investigation to a Senate Committee to avoid losing their funding.  Janis Hawk, meanwhile, holds the fort down in L.A. as well as unveils some of her personal life to us.   On the Benford homefront, Olivia spends some time catching up with Aaron Stark on her husband's stress level amongst other things.  Let's dive in and discuss!

Disclaimer: I was unable to find any screenshots from Last night's episode. Once I am able to find some, I will go back and add them to the post (and of course, give credit to whoever's site I "borrow" them from!).  10/27 Update: Thanks again to The ODI for posting some screenshots!  Hopefully soon I will have the technology myself to do this!   

The episode is told in the classic style of putting us right in the midst of a situation without knowing how they got there.  It's 1 am in D.C. Mark tries to convince Stan that the details from his flash that he DOES remember he remembers them clearly.  Stan tells Mark to not tell anyone else or he'll be D.O.A.  Mark is on the phone with someone telling that person that Wedeck may have swung something in their favor.  Their car arrives, they get in and oh boy an SUV is coming right towards Mark, Stan, Demetri and Vreede's car.  SLAM!   Then what look to be men of Asian descent all have guns pointed at the car and one man fires a rocket and there's an explosion.    HUH?

Cut to 39 Hours Earlier

(ohhh ok!) - And yes, now spend the entire episode catching up to that moment and filling in the blanks.  I wanted to point out that the men in that scene were Asian, because there were several blatant references to the Chinese and China in this episode, that they're either trying to throw us a red herring or they were trying to beat something into our heads!


Aaron and Olivia

  • While Mark is in D.C. he calls Aaron to have their daily discussion.  Aaron is working on the Benford house fixing their Alarm system, fixing the garage door that Mark fixed on Blackout Day (10/6).  Mark talks about the pressure to prove to the Senate that the MOSAIC investigation  is worth funding is stressing him out. Aaron, as Mark's sponsor, recommends Mark finds an AA meeting while he's in D.C.   Olivia just happened to be walking outside and overhears the conversation.
  • Later on Olivia is talking to Aaron and asks him to program hers and Mark's anniversary as the code 0312 (note, March 12th will be 3 days before Demetri's supposed shooting.  Anyone putting a timeline together out there?)  
  • Olivia mentions she overheard them talking about going to AA meetings and is worried about Mark.   Olivia also finds out that Aaron knows about her flash of being with another man.  She is very worried that fear of Olivia being unfaithful will drive him to drinking.  Well that and the fact that he needs his vision to come true for work but doesn't want his future to come true at home.
  • Aaron finds himself in a sticky situation because he knows Mark is drinking in the flash but he never told Olivia.   He mentions that if she can't trust Mark then who CAN she trust?   I guess he didn't feel it was his place to tell Olivia.
  • Or did he?  We'll get to the rest in our "GAME CHANGERS" section below. 


So How Does Janis Get Pregnant?
Off-Duty Janis

  • Janis apparently takes Karate.  We see her whooping up on some dude that seemed to be shaping up to be a love interest for her.  He even asked her out on a date to go see "Enter the Dragon."   While she rejected him nicely, in the next scene at the office we see her smiling at a text and assume it's from him.  
  • No such luck, next scene we see her with Theresa from the O.C.!   Or you may know her as Melanie from the first season of 24.  We here will know her as Maya, Janis's lesbian lover for at least one episode!   I'm sure I should have seen this coming considering it would make her "how does she get pregnant" storyline ever MORE complex!   But, I really didn't even consider it. 
  • We find out in Maya's FlashForward she sees herself wearing a wedding ring.  This doesn't allow Janis to let her guard down and tell her she was pregnant though.  They get all into their dirty talking and end up spending the night together at Janis's place.  Things look to be getting all lovey dovey.   Janis tells her to stay and make herself at home.  Janis complains about her alarm clock.   Maya invites her to some art thing at a gallery. 
  • So after work Janis does go to the art gallery and Maya went ahead and made things pretty weird!  First she buys her a new alarm clock with wheels that talks!  awww    But she also did the creepiest thing I could think of.  Janis would've been fine with her going through her stuff.   But no, she "MOSAIC'D" her!  Yep, she found out that Janis is pregnant in her future vision which led her to ask if she's into men too.   (not since high school Janis states. hmmmm)     Maya tries to defend herself and say that maybe it will be THEIR baby but Janis finds it way too weird and gives Maya the heave ho! 
  • Okay, so let's ask it.  In what scenarios COULD Janis get pregnant since she likes women and has no interest in men?  We did see a hint of a smile at Karate boy.   There is Bryce with his drawing of a woman that might look like Janis.....OH SNAP, I think I figured it out! (yep, "eureeka!" moment in mid-typing.  Those are the best!)    Let's say Janis gets shot in the stomach and is bleeding out, and then an ambulance picks her up...takes her to a hospital where a surgeon has drawn a picture of a woman he has only seen in his flashforward comes in with a gunshot wound.   He knows that she is the father of his eventual child, so he KNOWS he will save her and then Janis somehow takes a liking to him.   WOA...that was like Chandler figuring out the path of Ross and the Copy girl back to Rachel!     man, now we just need Janis to get shot!  Can anyone from China help us?   (check out Game Changers section) 
On-Duty Janis







  • At work Agent Al Gough finally cracked into the CIA with his hacker buddy "Mr. Cheeto Dust"  and got information on Somalia from the 90's.   Janis thinks this information will be helpful for the boys in Washington and wants to know if there's any more information on the dead crows and if people were unconscious.  Well, I thought that screen we saw from a couple episodes ago DID mention people had lost consciousness, but whatever!  
  • The next day, Janis checked in with the Gough and some other girl to see if they had found anything in the satellite images of Somalia.  They stumble upon an asphalt road and nearby there are 5 pylons in a star formation around a secluded area of Somalia.  Construction began 5 months before the 1991 "Crow" incident we witnessed.  And the analysis showed that they were probably up to 100 feet tall when the incident happened.   Probably the same tower we saw in Episode 3 right?  This one: 




  • The information is shared with Mark, Demetri and Vreede.  Mark thinks this discovery will cut some red tape and allow them to investigate in Somalia.  
  • Okay, so if this "proto-blackout" (as Mark called it) was caused in the radius of these pylons, how on EARTH, pun intended, did they get the whole world to black out?    My wife threw out a good suggestion.  How about Cell Phone towers?  They're everywhere and started getting put up everywhere in the 90's right?   I'll take it one step further, didn't everyone's cell phone not work in the Pilot episode right after the blackout?   Sure, we blamed it on mass chaos and lots of simultaneous phone call attempts.  But what if the towers were being used for another purpose?  What if D. Gibbons was performing some kind of Hack with his computer operation in Utah?  Well, I'm sure it wasn't just one computer in Utah. Man, did I actually have 2 good theories in one blog posting?   I'm on a roll!  (Props to Shanna V. for the tip!)  










Washington D.C.

Pre-Senate Hearing Lie Detector Test


  • Agent Vreede is annoyed being woken up early in the morning prior to the senate hearing to be brought in for a lie detector test.  He calls it a Chinese Fire drill to Demetri.  Chinese reference #2.
  • Demetri is summoned in and he said that he already told them he didn't see anything.  They still bring him in to make sure he was telling the truth. 
  • Not sure if we knew yet but Mark has been sober for 7 years and he was looking at his chip prior to be summoned in himself. 
  • Mark's lie detector test: He was alone and working late, he saw 2 men and they were wearing masks.  They still asked if he recognized them which fired up Mark!  
  • Vreede's lie detector test:  He was alone, working late and was leaving for night. He took the security exit and didn't see anyone else.   Hmmm why was he taking the security exit? 

Stanford Wedeck's Past in D.C.
As we noted above, Stan and crew are in town to preserve funding for the MOSAIC Investigation.  We learn that Stan has some history living in D.C. as we see him going around attempting to pull some strings.

  • Long story short, Stan has an "in" with the current President of the United States - Dave.  We see them playing basketball earlier and Stan was asking Dave for a big dog in his corner.  We learn that both of them seem to have some kind of sketchy past and that Wedeck is not too friendly with Clemente (the senator in charge of the hearing)   It isn't until Dave takes the podium at a press conference that we realize Dave is the President of the US.  



  • Did anyone notice the Press Secretary (actor Frank John Hughes) that introduced the President?  I just thought it was ironic because the last time I saw him working was in the White House for the President on 24 last season!   Crazy.  
  • The President addresses the media about how they're handing the fallout from the Blackout/Flashforwards.  They're redirecting fundings to programs that ARE worthwhile.   Someone asks why he isn't sharing what he saw in the FlashForward.   Apparently, leaders around the world are not revealing what they saw for security purposes.  But we did see that the President was in bed with a woman (most likely his wife?) and woken up by a secret service agent who says "something has happened".   The only thing I can note at this point is that it looks like he's still alive on April 29th 2010 at the beginning of his 2 minute and 17 second Flash.   More on this in a bit. 



  • Wedeck and the President meet in the Oval Office afterwards.  We find out that Stan was supposed to be a member of Dave's cabinet but that he couldn't work it out in the end.  Wedeck played the "you owe me card" and while he wanted the MOSAIC funding to continue, Dave had other plans in mind.  He wanted to appoint Stan to Director of Homeland Security.  He is given time to think it over. 
The Hearing

We go to the Capitol, which looks to be damage from the blackout.  The Senate Intelligence Committee Hearing are in session.




  • There are several other programs trying to sell their approach to dealing with the Flash Forwards.   We go through several senate committee's.  One was investigating some kind of crazy pharmaceuticals in the water supply but it was ruled out.  Another group investigating Alien Attacks and still believe it.  The one that got the most attention though was that (3rd mention) China was behind it.  The theory was absurd though.  China did not suffer many casualties because it was 2am during the blackout and most people were sleeping.  America suffered the most.  They believe that it was a targeted event to bring down the U.S. government.   While it sounds absurd, we cannot rule out that China was mentioned so many times in this episode and that the gunmen hunting down the MOSAIC crew were possibly Chinese!   I'm not saying they were trying to cripple the U.S. but what's the connection, if any, here?  stay tuned. 
  • Outside during a recess, Stanford is on the phone with his wife offering encouraging words.  Senator Clemente comes over and is, as formerly mentioned, an apparent nemesis of Wedeck's.  She is under some assumption that Stan had some kind of affair with a woman and that it would have been useful material in her campaign for President.  (I guess she went up against Dave?)    She is not a believer that the flashes show the future.  She thinks the MOSAIC investigation is a joke and is determined to make fools of them.   She mentions that her flash had her as President in 6 months' time.  Now while we do see progress by the end of this episode indicating that this could happen.  I think this is a good time to bring up again that the current President was still alive in his flash?   So what's up with that?   Was he not going to be 2 minutes and 17 seconds later?    On the other hand, if we go with the whole "types of flashes" theory, here is another person who has not gotten what they wanted in life, but has seen a flash of the future where they are on top of the world.  Interesting right?  



  • Back in the hearing Stan and Clemente go toe to toe.  Stan mentions how his team is gaining information from the flashes themselves.  Clemente jumps in that it was done without approval and attacks Stan's character.  They talk about Mark who had a flash that he was investigating leads that they won't have for another 6 months and that it has led to significant breaks in the case.  While Wedeck tried to prevent bringing Mark to the stand, it was inevitable.  Wedeck advises Mark to tell the truth since it got them this far. 
  • Mark starts going through his vision and the progress they made with Crow attrition.  He mentioned that he was running point on the investigation and had a wall full of leads.   He mentioned there were men after him presumably because of what they'll accomplish.  He mentions that he was on the phone but didn't know who he was talking to.   Clemente then pinpoints the one flaw of Mark's story which we really haven't discussed up to this point.  Everyone's flashes recount their entire 2 minutes and 17 seconds while Mark only remembers distinct images.   We know that Mark was impaired during his Flash, but there's no way he could tell the senate that!  Clemente gets on a roll making MOSAIC look like a ridiculous investigation.  Stanford storms out.  
  • After the session, Demetri agrees that it does sound crazy when you talk about Dead Birds, D. Gibbons and everything they have found.  Mark retorts with (4th mention) China and asking how ridiculous that idea was too.  
Stanford Saves the Day
  • When Wedeck left the Capitol, he called Janis to do him a favor.   Long story short, he dug up dirt on the President and blackmailed him into not closing the MOSAIC Investigation.   They searched the MOSAIC website for information on a woman, Renee, that Dave has an illegitimate child with.  She is living right there in Georgetown but will apparently be living in Puerto Rico 6 months from then in her flash.  This must be the woman Clemente was talking about and why it would have been helpful in the campaign.  But what did she think Wedeck did to the woman?   I guess he was involved with the campaign and helped sweep it under the carpet.   He also seemed to have some kind of bond with Renee and the child as he visited them too.  It must be where he got the picture of Renee, child and Dave.    Dave reminds Stan that he can only play this card once.  Stan takes the deal. 
  • The President makes a call and says that he has a problem he needs to be dealt with.  It sounded like he was going to turn the tables on Stan, which maybe he kind of did.   We'll talk about in a second. 
Karaoke!! 


  • We find out that Agent Vreede and Demetri are lousy singers but their choice in music is unmatched!  We get a little "Sister Christian" and some "Like a Rolling Stone" during the night's festivities.  Mark tried to get Demetri to slow down his drinking.  But Demetri is in the "live in the now" phase of his "I'm gonna die in a few months" process.   I should also say Mark gets strikes against him for not being a fan of Karaoke!
  • Stan arrives and has words with Mark.  They are both mad at each other.  Mark eventually comes clean that he was "loaded" during his flash.   Stan is concerned because he has staked his whole career on Mark's flashes because he believes in him.   Oh boy.   He decides to keep it under wraps when Demetri and Vreede show up and turn it into a celebration that they saved the investigation.
  • They then leave the bar and we're back in the scene we started with.   Stan tells Mark not to tell anyone else (that he was loaded in the flash). 
  • They see a news report that Clemente was nominated by the President to fill in the Vice President's newly vacant seat.  (the VP was killed in the Blackouts).  That gets her one step closer to the President's seat.  But again, why does she see herself as President in her Flash if Dave still is president in his?   Will the "Something has happened" from Dave's flash be related to this?   So was this the the "problem" resolution that the President came up with in response to Stan's threat?  He makes Stan's nemesis the VP?   "Everything is a trade-off" Stan says.  Sounds about right then. 
  • We see the other end of Mark's phone call and it was to Janis explaining how they saved the investigation.  
  • They get in the car and....
We're finally there folks!


Game Changers


Olivia's Text

  • Olivia is at home trying to activate the alarm system.  #2312  not working.  She gets out her phone to text Aaron and she receives an anonymous text message from a blocked phone.  It simply says "Mark was drinking in his flash forward".  Oh boy!!  
  • So who sent the text?   The obvious choices are Aaron or Stanford since they're the only 2 that supposedly know.   Of course, anyone within shouting distance could  have heard Mark bring it up at the bar to Stan too.  But I guess option 4 could be someone who PLANTED these images into Mark's head in the first place and is operating one large conspiracy and the text to Olivia was the next step in drawing her closer to Lloyd Simcoe.   Eh I think crazy things sometimes!    



The showdown in D.C.

  • Just as we saw in the beginning of the episode, the SUV slams into the car with Stan, Mark, Dem and Vreede in it.  The rocket launcher fires into the car.   We see the 4 of them jump out of the vehicle on the other side.  






  • And to the tune of "Like a Rolling Stone" we get a nice gunfight.  Some Asian organization (Chinese?) fighting against the MOSAIC Investigation?  What does it all mean?  Is China really behind the blackouts?  Were they doing experimentation in the 90's in Somalia?   Where do Simon and D. Gibbons and Suspect Zero (maybe one of the two mentioned) fall into this?
  • For now, one of the threats got shot and some manage to escape.   And that is all we see of this for now. 


Janis's Shooting

  • Except that on Janis's end she is walking with the groceries, sees a baby in a stroller and receives the call from Mark.  
  • Just as she hears the shooting in D.C. she has her own band of Chinese fighters to deal with!  She shows off some of her Karate skills but a man comes out of nowhere and shoots her in the stomach.  Woaaaaa it's like someone was listening to me up above!  Bryce to the rescue anyone??
  • Janis manages to kill the 2 men that were after her.   Well, she shot one in the shoulder, not sure if we saw him again.  But then we see her laying on the ground, bleeding out.  We see more of her flash of the ultrasound where she finds out the baby is a girl and begins to cry.   




  • She has to survive right?  That would really throw a wrench into things if she didn't!  But at this early in the season it would be too soon to be showing cards that the flashes don't come true.   I really like my theory that she gets rushed into the hospital and forms a bond with Bryce.   It's perfect!   Let's see if it happens.      

But that's the end of the episode folks!  I really liked this one.  It definitely expanded the universe a little bit more for the show.  It got us out of this "follow a lead from Mark's flash and see where it goes" formula which was refreshing.  And it brought a whole new level of complexity.   This might be the episode I was looking for to turn things upside down.  But I think it's more of a large stepping stone in that direction.   I think things are going to get much more interesting!

Previews for next week look good.  I don't want to spoil much for those who don't like to watch.  But it does look like we may see Simon again!   And this is where I need to bring up a disclaimer.  The local Philadelphia Phillies have made the world series and are going for a 2nd straight World Series Championship starting next week.  There just happens to be games scheduled on the following 2 Thursdays (the 2nd being a Game 7 scenario!).   Just giving you a heads up that I will most likely be watching those games with FlashForward taking priority B.   So if you don't see the blog postings up right away, have no fear.  I'll get to them soon enough!   I'm sure any local readers will be in the same predicament!   GO PHILLIES!

And with that, I bid you adieu.  As always, I love to hear your thoughts and discussions on the episodes, so please start the commenting below!  And also as always, I will see you next week!


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20 comments:

Mike V. said...

It looks like people prefer the Comments Page this way (like the LOST blog) rather than embedded on the blog. I think I agree. We'll try it this week and see how it works!

Discuss away!

Mike V. said...

Can't believe I didn't even consider the idea that maybe the President ordered the hit on the MOSAIC people. I'm really losing it!!

(btw..still can't find any screenshots!)

Mike said...

My initial thoughts were that the President ordered the hit on the Mosiac people, but Janis being attacked doesn't fit in with that theory. The President only needed Wedeck killed, as his motive was protection from his scandal and not the work they were doing.

And someone could have mentioned this next idea in the comments last week as I didn't read them, but it seems like last week's revelation about Olivia's future love interest could explain how Olivia could be in that situation without the marriage falling apart. If Mark figures out that he had something to do with it than Olivia could be a sort of hidden agent to try and figure it out. Of course there is the problem that she said she had feelings for him in the dream, but that is only a small problem.

Anonymous said...

My first thoughts on Senator Clemente was that she was just being sarcastic about being President in 6 months. After giving it some more thought I starting thinking maybe she had a bad vision of herself or maybe no vision at all. Which could lead to the "something bad just happened" in the Presidents flash forward. Anyway, just something to ponder on.

Rukshan said...

I didn't watch this ep yet, its airs tonight here in the UK.So Ill give my opinions on it later.

I just realized some thing about the past episodes though. The visions of the future are not written in stone for sure.That guy who was operation will never go dark as he saw him self in his flash. As he was treated for his condition, he will never have pigmentation issues.

Also, the story line says that everyone`s flash took them to the same time,if it was so- how did that girl see herself walking at the beach during the DAY TIME when almost every other flash showed the night time.. She has to be in another country for that to happen or it was some thing they didn't think of.

Mike V. said...

Sorry for the delay in getting to the comments!

Rukshan, since you didn't watch the episode I'll respond to your comments first so you can skip the rest. First of all, they talked about doing their wedding in Hawaii which is WEST of LA and would be earlier in the day than Los Angeles's 10pm time. Plus it's April in the FLASH, so the days are longer. I will agree though that some people's flashes look like they were at daytime. It may have just been the lighting or it could be a continuity error. I guess we'll find out! As for the guy on the operating table, I think his skin may still change color. they didn't cure his condition, they were just doing surgery to fix whatever pains he was having since the blackout. They needed to be aware of his condition to avoid him dying during the procedure.

Mike, good point with the Janis aspect of the hit. I agree I don't know if there is any way the Prez would've known to go after her. Agreed with the Olivia thing that maybe she was working FOR Mark. And also agree that the "FEELINGS" are the issue. Of course...there is always the thought that she WAS working to help Mark and then developed feelings for him. And then this leads Mark to drinking because he set the whole thing up. That would be ironic!

Anonymous, yeah that's a good angle to take too that she was making up her flash. My only thought against that is that we're going to be seeing tons of flashes before the end of this season and it's going to be tough to track which ones are telling the truth and which ones are lying about their flashes if they start pulling that on us! Ohhh Clemente was lying....so then what if so and so is lying too?!? I think the Prez's flash being an issue where "something has happened" and Clemente's flash showing her as president tie nicely together.

Ahh but this made me think of something else. You are the leader of the free world, and you know that at 7pm on April 29th (east coast time) is the moment where everyone had their flashforwards. This is the perfect time to be taking a NAP and needing to be woken up by a secret service agent? Hmmm that makes me think that maybe this wasn't his wife in bed with him and maybe he has taken himself into another scandal! And then maybe that is the ammunition Clemente needs to make herself President. Maybe she didn't see herself as president literally in the flash but she saw compromising evidence that would lead to her BEING president!

Where do I come up with this STUFF???!!

Thanks for the comments all, keep em coming!

Anonymous said...

I believe Sen Clemente said she saw herself as VICE-President in her flash.

noel said...

Don't know why that came up as an anonymous post, but it's mine (about the VP flash forward).

Rukshan said...

Mike,I am a doctor so i can say that guy had Addison's disease,its not uncommon and treatable. He just needs to take cortisol tablets (hydrocotizone) and he wont get any symptoms. I guess they will put it to him neglecting the illness or some thing. I cant wait to see 1x05!

Mike V. said...

Noel, I think she may have seen herself as VP...but possibly with evidence that would make her President. Or maybe she saw herself as Prez but didn't know how that could be possible...then she finds out she was nominated for VP and starts to see the possibility that these flashes might come true. Should be interesting how it pans out!

Rukshan, thanks for info on Addison's disease! I guess my only issue with him NOT becoming discolored would be the fact that Bryce and the Man KNEW they had nothing to fear from the surgery because they knew he was alive in the future and had skin discoloration. I guess what you are saying is...maybe things revealed in the flashes are true but maybe not the events in the flashes themselves? And I could probably be onboard with something like that! Because I don't think there is any possible way that all of the events in these flashes CAN come true!

Jenn said...

My thoughts during this episode were that the President ordered the hit on the entire team (wherever they were) because he was behing the blackout somehow. I think the affair is the red herring. When he realized how close the team was getting to finding the truth (through the hearings), he called to "report the problem" and Janis and the team were attacked. I think the team figures this out eventually and the President resigns or is impeached - this would explain Clemente's vision and the fact that he was sleeping on April 29.

Mike V. said...

That makes a whole lot of sense too Jenn! I could definitely see things panning out that way.

So then why recruit the Asian Hitmen? To try and point the blame at another country rather than the President?

Anonymous said...

Thank you for your blog. I really enjoy reading your recaps and the comments. I've been looking for a blog that easily lists the FF/LOST connections but haven't found one. It's talked about in the blogs but not easily as a list. Maybe I should just start one myself. Since LOST, I have become an expert clue finder and seeker and FF has so many LOST hints. It's fun.

I think that the President taking the hit on all that knows of MOSAIC, including Janis, is too obvious. The subplot alone with the President's secret child is too dumbed down to be believable. Someone mentioned a RED HERRING and I agree. Or I am hoping it is a Red Herring. And not the cliche storyline that it is. And besides, I know who will be taking over as President. I saw him in my FF. John Locke!
Thanks, JOJO

Anonymous said...

I would also like to say that although I am a fan of FF and will try not to compare it too much to LOST, (which is difficult because LOST is so brilliantly written and most of the dialogue in FF is painful). The missing element, the MAJOR missing character for me is...the music. The musical score. FF makes use of different contemporary songs, and I appreciate that (the last shoot-out scene in the garage, mmmm interesting), but so far has not used any musical motifs for its characters. It needs to soon. It is the music that helps connect the audience to it's characters. Any LOST fan will tell you that, right?
Thanks for listening.
JOJO

Mike V. said...

Thanks for the props JoJo! Trust me, you won't find a bigger LOST obsessee than myself! Well I know you could if you tried, but if you haven't you should check out my LOST Addicts Blog Recaps http://www.lostaddictsblog.com

Definitely my #1 obsession these days.

Anyway, on occassion I will point out LOST similarities in FlashForward but I try to stray from it in case anyone who DOESN'T watch LOST wouldn't really want to see those comparisons.

very good point about the SCORE of LOST vs. FlashForward's music choices. I do like the Pop tunes interspersed with the show. And LOST still finds a way to integrate songs into their show. But yeah Michael Giaccino's Score for LOST gives the show the EPIC feel. It's brilliant, and I'm proud to say that I went to the same high school as him and probably was in the same music program as him! lol

As for the bad acting, I haven't noticed it too much but definitely can't compare to the stellar drawn out characters we have come to know on LOST. But let's not forget, for every Ben there was a WALT when it came to acting chops! lol

Let's also not forget, LOST has had 100+ episodes for us to grow to love it. Most of us loved it 3-9 episodes in. But FF is only on episode 5. It's not supposed to be the same show as LOST either. It appeals to a similar crowd but I don't think it wants to fall into a stereotype. Let's give the show a chance to breathe and find its own voice! I have faith that it can.

Keep up the great comments!

Anonymous said...

Thanks Mike V. So nice to connect to a LOST/FF obsessive fan. Aren't we great?
I posted something on another blog and would like to post it on yours. Is that an unethical blog rule?
PS. Didn't say the acting was bad (not at all). Said the dialogue was kind of dumbed down...
JOJO
(can't figure out not to be Anonymous)

Anonymous said...

And of course I know about your LOST Blog recaps. c'mon...
Love them.
JOJO

Mike V. said...

Sorry I must have been thinking of another comment I read somewhere else with bad dialogue and acting lol.l and yeah i figured you read the lost blog but just wanted to make sure!! As for posting with a name you can use a google acct or you could select the name/URL option and enter a name I think. Good luck! Lol

Rukshan said...

I think the theory behind the flash is similar to a dream.Some see a dream and work there whole life to achieve it, while others who saw a nightmare would do anything to prevent it.

I think the hit men were definitely the work of the president, why else did he ask some for some thing to be done for him.I hate that ending though,with those FBI guys walking with there guns blazing with uber cool music.. lame..

I was right about the tesla coil pylon,I hope we dont have to wait too long to know what they are..


oh and am I the only one who loved the lesbians :) and that girl mya is hot!

Megan said...

I assumed that the president needed the girl he had the photo with killed.
Stupid Wendeck mentioned the area where she lived and how he tracked her down. If he wants to get rid of the opportunity for blackmail (and what looked like an illegitimate child), I'm guessing he'd want her dead. . . . or paid off?